Question
Does anybody know what the new claims
near Ogilby that poped up in the last two years are all about!
They staked a lot of ground
what seams like a placer deposit????
The location is at the "well known" dumortierite site!
Frank
gilaoro
Hi Frank, I just joined this forum and I just moved from Yuma,AZ to Morristown,Az but I know a good deal about Ogilby Road area. I realize this post is old but I hate to see a question go unanswered! The claims are by the Southwestern Prospectors and Miners Association Club of San diego,CA and some of the others are snowbirds. This are is covered with snowbirds during the winter season. If you know where the old "Dip stick" excavator is that is the area of of the old spark plugore mines that is also getting a lot of rockhound attention.
If you go futher east toward Jackson Gultch you will find some more claims by club members who have indivigaul, not club, claims. The snowbirds hacve claimed and over claimed each other all over the area, last winter thry had a gun pulling incident over a claim so the ranger and sheriff is watching a little closer in the winter. Al of the winter reisdents have ATV,s and claims mean nothing to them.
Goldfinger
Max:
Never heard of it but this area sounds just like Quartzsite...
Steve
gilaoro
Steve,
The area between California S-34 and the Colorado river at Yuma is in the Cargo Mucho MTs, Jackson Gultch was the richest placer but the entire are has many shaft and open pit mines, the latest was the American Girl Mine complex, there is an old mill site and town site but nothing remains except some concrete and a graveyard and about 20,00 snowbirds in the winter. When I first got started in gold prospecting I stumbled on to a caretaking job at Jackson Gultch for Robert Sangaret a mining lawer from San Diego who had a lot of claims in the area. he was a good guy! The Mesquite Placers and open pit mine is a few miles north in the Choclate MTS and the California Pot Holes is the eastern extension.
futher N & W in the Choclates there is some good gold but most of it is a restricted Navy live fire area, There is one spot in Jackson Gultch that continully produces 1/4 OZ nuggets from a very small area, I don't claim jump and when I offered to show the spot to the current claim owner ( A Snowbird form Colo.) for detecting permission he refused me and said he would find it, the last time I heard there were still people taking nuggets from that spot!!
Max
Goldfinger wrote:
Max:
Never heard of it but this area sounds just like Quartzsite...
Steve
Goldfinger
Max:
Ogilby looks like a great place to go if you don't mind all the people. Kind of sounds like a mini-Quartzsite in a way. Have heard of all those places you mention like Potholes,Jackson Gulch,Mesquite but have never been to any of them. For some reason- I seem to have developed an aversion to California over the past few years.
Steve
gilaoro
Steve, Its easy to do!! Even people that live there hate the state!! A gold mining friend worked for the USFS for 24 years, retiring from his last posting in SusanVille,CA, a beatuiful spot with good gold. he sold his house there and moved to Idaho. California filed suit aganist him for income taxes, they want him to pay them for the rest of his life for his FS retirement becasue it was earned in CA particialy. he refused and now the state has a warrant out for his arrest, he can never return to CA because the Bug Check stations run your lisence # and hits go to the HWP for capture. That is just one example, but that is where the money is, I gave up dredging there after they got so tight about 93 or 94 when we left Stanton, I movied my dredgeing to Idaho and they got bad too so I sold all three of them including the 4 inch Keene I got from you.
Max
Goldfinger wrote:
Max:
For some reason- I seem to have developed an aversion to California over the past few years.
Steve
Goldfinger
[quote="gilaoro"] California filed suit aganist him for income taxes, they want him to pay them for the rest of his life for his FS retirement becasue it was earned in CA particialy.
[quote="Goldfinger"]Max:
Max-
Why am I not surprised by this idiocy given the 9th Circuit Courts liberal socialist agenda?
Steve
Goldbug Ron
Gilaoro that is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. First, the 'Bug Station' DOESN"T check license plate numbers. There is no way they could do that. They see hundreds of cars every day and that would take forever. Second, they would be after thousands of people who earned money in California then retired to another state. Third, several years ago they tried to collect from people who did just that. A law was passed that prevents California from doing that. re: The Source Bill - HR394. Signed into law on Jan. 10, 1996
If you don't want to pay state income taxes there are a number of states who don't have any. Nevada is one, South Dakota, Texas, to name a few.
Maybe this guy wasn't paying income taxes while he lived there and they want him for that. But they won't be catching him by driving through a 'bug station'.
Pure BS.
Goldbug Ron
gilaoro
Goldbug Ron,
Every POE films every lisence plate, even if you don't go through the weight station/bug check. Just slow down and look for the cameras. I did not say they looked at every one but they have the record if they want too. Also every U.S Customs/Border Patrol check point runs your plate on the computer while you are driving up the agent is typing your #s in ,returns are instant. Not that they need them, after some experince they can stand there and pick out the ones they want.
I was not aware the law had been changed but I would not live in California if they gave me Swartzs job!!
You are entitled to your opinions but what is your experince in law enforcement?
Goldbug Ron
I don't have any experience in law enforcement but I did work at the Bug Station.
Ron
keninla
Goldbug Ron is right about the retirement earning law. California as well as some other states were trying (and succeeding ) to tax retirement earnings for people that retired and left the state. Federal law passed prevented that and now you pay taxes on your retirement only where you reside.
